I'm A Conservative / I'm a Liberal (a long rant)

I Am A Conservative

I am a proud Conservative. I am more patriotic to America than those on the Left. I stand for innovation, ambition and success. I stand for Corporate America because it is the corporations that make this country strong. Corporations are job creators so the more favor we give them in the form of deregulation and tax cuts, the more we enable them to create additional jobs. I believe that all people are not only created equal as guaranteed by our Constitution, they are also created the same. Therefore, I believe that if someone doesn't achieve success, they are either lazy or have made bad choices. I should not be expected to pay for someone else's inadequacies. They simply need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and make something of themselves. In a capitalist society, everyone must take responsibility for their actions. If you screw up, you must pay the consequences.

I believe corporations should have all the same rights as individuals and based on our freedom of speech as guaranteed in the first amendment, should be allowed to make unrestricted contributions to political campaigns as our way of expressing support for our conservative viewpoint. This is part of our free market, capitalist society.

In a true capitalist society, our educational, infrastructure, healthcare systems and more should be privately owned and operated as opposed to run by the government. Certainly a profit driven business will do a better job than the government in a competitive environment. This will make certain we get the biggest bang for our buck.

I believe that unions have outlived their usefulness. Unions can only drive up costs which will have negative consequences in our competitive pricing. We must maintain an edge or get priced out of the marketplace. As long as we remain competitive, we can create jobs.

Corporate executives must be well compensated in order to attract the most qualified personnel. It's a dog eat dog world out there and finding the right people to run a business ends up in an extremely competitive bidding war. In addition, since corporate executives and wealthy Americans pay so much more in total taxes than the working class, they should receive additional tax breaks.

I am a Christian and I believe in Christian values. I believe a fetus has a soul at the point of conception and to abort is tantamount to murder. I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman exclusively, based on my Christian values which dictate that homosexuality is wrong. I believe, those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their savior will live in eternal bliss and anyone who does not will rot in hell. Based on my religious beliefs, it's only proper that I push for legislation which supports my values.

I believe only God has the power to change our environment and global warming caused by humans is a myth. Any "scientist who claims that global warming is caused by man has a liberal agenda. Therefore, any subsidizing of green energy projects must be stopped. We have vast resources to draw from including oil, natural gas, coal and nuclear.

I believe America has a right to all resources in the world and that guaranteeing our access to them is worth fighting for. We cannot allow some little renegade dictatorship to prevent us from having access to resources that are in our vital interests. Financing our military is paramount to our success as a society. Only through imposing power militarily can we ensure peace in the world and access to resources we currently need or will need in the future.

I stand for the single correct way of doing things which will benefit all. There is the Conservative way and there is the wrong way.

 

I Am A Liberal

I am a proud Liberal. I tend to not give much thought to whether or not someone is more patriotic than I. I don't see patriotism as a contest. I am just a patriot. I too, stand for innovation, ambition and success. I wish the best for our corporations but I believe what makes America strong is our people as opposed to corporations. I believe, since corporations' only reason for being in business is to make money, they must be regulated to ensure the safety of people who work for them, for those who buy their products and those who may be negatively affected by their actions. I believe our corporations must have a stake in the game and should pay a fair share of federal taxes because they enjoy benefits from services we all pay for. I believe all people are created equal but not the same. There are many who, through no fault of their own, don't have the skills, the aggressiveness, the education, knowledge, intellect, mindset or the willingness to take risks to simply pull themselves up by the bootstraps. I believe in a one for all, all for one society where people who need a helping hand can get the necessary aid to help them get on their feet. I believe American workers are not delusional and do not think they should be paid executive wages for what they do. They are not jealous of the wealthy. They'd just like to be fairly paid for the work they do and when a company is prosperous, they feel entitled to adequate increases in compensation for having been part of the company's success as opposed to seeing all the benefit go to the top while they lose due to increases in costs of living. I believe that Conservative philosophy which dictates that anyone who isn't "making it" is either lazy or has made bad decisions is a subjective statement that actually says, "if you haven't achieved the same level of success as the wealthiest man in the world (Bill Gates) you are a failure which make everyone a failure except for Bill Gates." That just proves that laziness and bad choices vary with every individual. Why aren't all Conservatives as wealthy as Bill Gates?...laziness?...bad decisions?

I believe corporations are not the same as people. Corporations cannot vote, they cannot be executed, they cannot be drug tested, etc. They are not people. I believe, when a corporation or individual is allowed to contribute so much money to a political campaign that they become noticed, it allows the contributors to unfairly influence legislation. It is a blatant conflict of interests. It is bribery and it must be outlawed.

Private enterprise, which is strictly motivated by profit must not be allowed to own our infrastructure, educational or healthcare systems. When a private enterprise is wholly committed to profit, they will cut corners to increase their bottom line. Cutting corners to increase profits is a recipe for deterioration  of these essentials which provide the foundation for the continued success of America, not just for now, but especially in the long run. Because of the ownership of these necessities, there would be no competition and little or no recourse for the masses in the event of failure.

I believe that unions are an essential element to ensure fairness to workers by making certain the people who do the work which brings profit, get to share in part of it. Workers have an investment whether they are employed by private enterprise or the government. They invest their time, their education, their experience and their expertise in the same way executives bring what they have to offer to the bargaining table. I believe that in the exact same way executives negotiate salary and benefits, workers must have those same rights collectively. Collective bargaining with our legislators is something corporate executives count on. They are allowed to bargain through their lobbying efforts. They do so as individuals, individual corporations and as lobbying groups from small and large business associations. Public and private employees must be granted the same collective bargaining rights. When corporate executives are far outpacing their employees in terms of wage increases and especially when workers are actually losing income due to rising costs of living, workers have little recourse without the aid of collective negotiations to guarantee a return on their investment. Workers are contract labor after all, individual entrepreneurs if you will, who gain power through numbers not at all unlike business associations. Raising employee wages may increase pricing but paying exorbitant executive salaries has exactly the same effect. I believe, since we all have an investment, a better form of balance must be achieved for workers to maintain a proper attitude toward their work, their employers and ultimately, toward America. In addition, America once provided the highest quality goods and services found anywhere in the world. By fighting a "price" war as we are currently doing, we become no better than any other country that wants to compete with us. Quality should be the backbone of America as it once was - not price. Most everyone is willing to pay a little more for a better mouse trap.

I believe anyone in this country should have the right to make as much money as they can, however  I believe it's a crime to allow the wealthy to pay a lower percentage of their incomes in taxes than the working class. It's unimaginable that despite their already low tax rates and tax loopholes, the wealthy want even more at the expense of their workers.

Similar to Conservatives, I am most often Christian and believe in Christian values but I believe that anyone has a right to choose their own beliefs without fear of prejudice, persecution or any kind of negative consequences as guaranteed in our Constitution. I believe individuals have the right to make decisions concerning their own bodies including aborting an early stage fetus. I believe a fetus is not a separate entity until it escapes the womb alive or at least, not until the second trimester of pregnancy. I believe in the sanctity of marriage and that it should be reserved for two people who are in love with each other regardless of sexual preference. It's an equal rights issue and it's a separation of church and state issue. Because of First Amendment rights, I believe no law shall be passed in which religious philosophy is its foundation.

I do not believe we simply have the right to all resources throughout the world. While I believe in a strong military for defense, I don't believe we should use our military to guarantee access to resources in foreign countries. I resent being told that war is the only option to liberate a society from tyranny when our real purpose is to secure strategic positions to insure access to resources.

I believe in science. When the overwhelming majority of scientists say global warming is caused by man, I try to look at the evidence they present and have I have determined that their facts make sense. When the vast majority of industrialized nations are investing huge sums of money into green energy, I am disappointed that we may be left behind in this rapidly emerging field that will undoubtedly have incredible demand.

I do not stand for a single "correct" way of doing things. I believe, the more ideas we have to choose from, the more likely we will make decisions which best benefit our society.

Most of all, I believe in fairness and equality for each and every citizen of The United States of America.

 

My Take On Conservative VS Liberal

Voting Conservative is casting a vote for Corporate America to have their way with us. Casting a Conservative vote is voting for a death sentence for our middle class. Voting Liberal is a vote for shared sacrifice and equal rights without prejudice.

I don't expect anyone who reads this will agree or disagree with any or all of what I've said here. Nor do I think it will change anyone's mind as to which side they favor. I wrote this merely to state things as I see them. I don't like politicians - period. As far as I'm concerned, virtually all politicians are corrupt and cannot be trusted so my vote is cast based on a particular philosophy. When talking about class warfare, Conservatives are the ones promoting it by refusing the idea of shared sacrifice and by rejecting any ideas that aren't their own, and certainly by rejecting any ideas put forth by a black president. Conservatives are wrong. They are selfish and uncaring toward America's workforce and those who can't help their current station in life. Conservatives are in favor of corporations, the wealthy and making money no matter what the effect it has on average Americans.  Their stand that reducing taxes on the wealthy will create jobs is baseless proven by the last 10 years of history when taxes were low and did nothing to create jobs. In other words, it's a blatant lie.

At some point, I fully expect the behavior of conservative lawmakers will ultimately bite them in the ass. Let's hope Corporate America doesn't become so entrenched in our government that we are no longer allowed a say. That can only happen if we do nothing or if we wait too long before taking action. Doing nothing would ultimately result in our society becoming slaves to a handful of power brokers at the top - power brokers who have purchased authority and whose only motivation is accumulating additional wealth. That will have the exact same result as pure socialism - a few at the top with everyone else at the bottom. I find pure socialism and pure capitalism equally distasteful. There must be a blend of both for our workforce to be motivated to do their best for themselves, the companies they work for and ultimately for America while leaving plenty of room for investors to profit. I believe we should pay attention to the rest of the world and try to learn from what other countries are doing to maintain a successful balance between those at the top, the corporations they run,  the workforce and government. Every one of us in America has a stake in the game so we must all be able to benefit from our prosperity. That was the philosophy that allowed us to win two world wars. That was the philosophy that, until the most recent generation, brought America into the number one position in the world.

With all that said, I suspect many Conservatives are as concerned as liberals over the fact that our government is continually being purchased by special interests and is no longer representative of the people. The only way we can bring government back to the control of the citizenry is to get the money out of our political process by making any form of campaign contributions illegal. Then, and only then can we establish any level of trust that our legislators will support the best interests of those who cast the votes which put them in office.

~ Take the money out of politics and all that's left is the best interests of "We, the people." ~

For someone who ascribes to a liberal philosophy of equality and fairness for all, choices at the ballot box are easy. For conservatives...well...they'll have to wrestle with their conscience.

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Comments

  1. rhrebel

    OMG!! gbakere, this is one of the best articles I have read in a while!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! As I have said before—-gosh I wish I could write like that! 3 thumbsup—

    October 06, 2011
    1. gbakere

      Thanks reb, I’ve been chewing on it for a while. There was a lot more but it’s already too long so it was time to put it to bed.

      October 06, 2011
  2. jillsthoughts

    Excellent post, gb! Very thought out.

    October 06, 2011
  3. DidymusDoubt

    Lol, unanimous so far—very well done!

    October 06, 2011
  4. DidymusDoubt

    A curiosity: thus far only those who are labeled liberals have commented. One wonders why?

    October 06, 2011
    1. DidymusDoubt

      I agree, robo, yet why isn’t that happening is my point. Think about it.

      October 06, 2011
      1. monkeygirl21

        The truth hurts!! Great post GB!!!

        October 09, 2011
      2. DidymusDoubt

        Bingo! We have a Bingo! And it is so well reasoned—no hysterics, no namecalling. They are left literally speechless.

        October 06, 2011
  5. VietVetTx

    Since 70% of jobs are created by small business and any legislation that prevents them from thriving is bad for this cuntry, voting for liberals is unpatriotic.

    Game, set, match.

    October 06, 2011
    1. VietVetTx

      Sorry bob, I got mine in first. It’s like calling dibs on shotgun.

      October 06, 2011
    2. gbakere

      VVT,
      Yeah…who ever said it was a tennis match? Tennis is for muscle heads. Chess is a far more intellectual game where reason and logic prevail.

      Very good Bob.

      I’m unaware of any legislation that would hurt small business. Even if there were, favoring business of any kind over and above the best interests, and at the expense of the masses is wrong. Government is for the benefit of the masses over and above all. That means government should do whatever it can to help small business but not if it hurts most of the people in this country. Conservative philosophy would dictate that American workers should get down on their knees and thank Corporate America for jobs. While there is some truth to that, Corporate America should get on their knees as well and be thankful to have the greatest workforce in the world and want to provide prosperity for all. It is simply a fairness issue. Virtually every citizen in this country brings something of value to the table. All Liberals want is a fair, non-prejudiced society in which we can think and speak freely about our beliefs concerning American philosophy. We are equally as passionate about fairness as Conservatives are toward money.

      VVT, who in the fuck do you think you are to question anyone else’s patriotism?

      October 06, 2011
      1. VietVetTx

        gbak – fairness is not writing stifling bills to keep one group in an entitlement state and the other group punitavely taxed.

        October 06, 2011
        1. gbakere

          So, you’re saying that even though tax rates are the lowest in over 50 years, the wealthy should have more at the expense of our schools, infrastructure, healthcare and safety? You’re saying that the American workforce, many who are out of work today due to Wall Street’s corruption, should have to pay for the failures of the top tier and if they can’t find a job in a jobless environment, tough shit? Gee VVT, did you ever consider what it might be like to be one of those workers? You have never felt that state of hopelessness. Or, if you have and figured out how to rise above it, you’re expecting everyone to be the same as you. You expect them to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. Again, it’s all relative. Apparently, you haven’t pulled yourself up by the bootstraps very much because I don’t recall seeing VietVetTx mentioned with the likes of Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc. You are apparently a miserable failure as set by your own standards.

          October 06, 2011
        2. anukulardecider

          And that “other” group is paying lower taxes than ever, dummy.

          October 07, 2011
      2. DidymusDoubt

        The reason you have not heard of any actual legislation is becuase there is none…except on Faux Noos and the present line of the likes of Cantor and others. They keep repeating that Obama wants to tax the middle class.

        October 06, 2011
        1. VietVetTx

          Then I suggest you look at the American Jobs Act that Obama is pushing. I downloaded it and read it and even made a thread here about it.

          Just the portion where the unemployed can sue businesses who do not hire them if they “think” that business did so because they were unemployed.

          Start on page 133.

          Or find my thread and read it from the bill itself. I posted it there.

          Now do you really think there will not be trial lawyers trying to get people to sue and settle out of court?

          Why would a small business ever hire if they can be sued for the results?

          October 06, 2011
          1. DidymusDoubt

            Vet, what on earth does the fact of banning gross discrimination against people who are unemployed have to do with “Since 70% of jobs are created by small business and any legislation that prevents them from thriving is bad for this cuntry”? All those who have been unemployed should remain that way and this is good for the country?

            October 06, 2011
            1. anukulardecider

              You can’t win with BillyBob. He doesn’t want the unemployed to draw unemployment, but he has no problem with companies discriminating against them, and keeping them unemployed. I figure he must feel pretty rotten about his stinky existence, to harp on the unfortunate all the time like he does, and I suppose that’s the only way he can boost his ego and feel like a man. He reminds me of this idiot teabagger who was throwing money at the old man with Parkinson’s. Nobody was impressed with this miserable little twerp, belittling the old man, and no one is impressed with BillyBob’s threads of constant harping on the unemployed and low income earners..

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_PX5L_v_7I

              October 07, 2011
          2. gbakere

            I prefer to look at it this way:
            If someone is being discriminated against in a jobless economy that the greedy at the top created, we must provide for those who have been so adversely affected by it. After all, this wasn’t done simply by big business, it was done by our government allowing big business to get away with it. The government and big business need to do what is necessary to rectify the injustices done to American workers. You are claiming that government should only take care of businesses regardless of how it may affect the unemployed workforce. And don’t forget, the only cases that will win in court will be those which can be proven. The burden of proof will always be in the hands of the plaintiff.

            October 06, 2011
          3. gbakere

            I find it fascinating that I put up a post comparing Conservative philosophy to Liberal philosophy, explain why I ascribe to the Liberal philosophy and someone comes in to pick on one single point they take exception to in a bill introduced by our president, never addressing what the post was about. It never ceases to amaze me how Conservatives cannot stay on point. It truly makes me wonder if anything can get resolved in our country when ideas and ideals are put on the table for discussion and someone wants to nitpick specifics that they are upset over – specifics which have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

            The post was mainly about the fact that Conservative philosophy favors Corporate America over and above the masses and Liberal philosophy favors the masses over corporate interests and that there needs to be a blending of the two.

            If someone wants a government owned and controlled by big business, then by all means, vote Republican. If someone wants government kept in the hands of the people as was intended by the rules set in our Constitution, then you should vote Democratic. Regardless, if we don’t take the money out of politics, it will be a moot discussion. Corporate America will succeed in their attempted takeover and you can bet our Constitution will change. Once that happens, America will have changed and the only way we’ll stand a chance to bring it back into the hands of the people will be through a violent rebellion. Perhaps big business is foolish enough to think they could handle that but we would become a completely false democracy with disenfranchised voters everywhere due to the control of big money power brokers. It’s already happening. We will become a form of a dictatorship and in the long run, dictatorships fail. Dictatorships never have the people’s best interests at heart because they have no accountability to anyone.

            So, vote however you want but be aware of the consequences of your vote. It will have an impact on our kids and generations well into the future and may even cause the collapse of this great nation. "Of the people, for the people, by the people – that’s what America is supposed to stand for and that’s getting lost in the muddle.

            October 07, 2011
            1. anukulardecider

              Not to mention the fact that what he is upset over, is simply ridiculous. I wonder how Einstein thinks we can tackle the unemployment problem, if companies are allowed to discriminate against unemployed people??? What kind of debate do you expect, from a person that listens to pundits who slam poor people for owning refrigerators? Not to mention the fact that a large % of companies are now doing credit checks before hiring. They can still discriminate!

              October 07, 2011
            2. rhrebel

              Or just ignore the post all together. Has anyone seen SEC lately? Has anyone noticed that Earlisms has not bothered to reply to my rebuttal of his nonsense? Yep, either change the subject or run and hise, that’s how conservatives handle things.

              October 07, 2011
          4. anukulardecider

            Here’s a quick solution…..DON’T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED!

            October 07, 2011
            1. anukulardecider

              Well now, that doesn’t fit into the Neo-clown philosophy.

              October 07, 2011
            2. gbakere

              And…he’s still not responding. VVT came into this post making an attempt to change the subject and we briefly bought into his bullshit but got things back on track again. Additionally, he arrogantly feels as though he has the right to question someone else’s patriotism on the basis that they disagreed with him. When I questioned, on what authority did he have the right to question someone else’s patriotism, he doesn’t answer. When all is said and done, he runs away without addressing the issue or answering my question. What purpose did VietVetTx serve here? What was his mission? I would suggest that his “input” served no purpose, quite similarly to Conservative philosophy. He is a true Conservative who has absolutely no concern whatsoever for anyone but himself and by the fact that he wouldn’t address the topic at hand, that he obviously has no authority to question anyone else’s patriotism and that when questioned, he runs away, I find him to be a coward. Thank you VVT for not being on our side. I for one, wouldn’t want you on my side under any circumstances. We, on the left have no room in our fight against the corporate takeover of America for cowards.

              October 07, 2011
            3. anukulardecider

              Maybe BillyBob is busy cut n pasting his rebuttal to rhrebel. lol We’re all supposed to meet back here on Saturday, right?

              October 07, 2011
            4. gbakere

              Lol…he won’t show up since he is a coward.

              October 07, 2011
            5. gbakere

              tammy,
              your reputation preceeds you so don’t start any petty bickering on my blog. I’ll have no tolerance for it.

              October 08, 2011
  6. Gulfman

    Why don’t we give the homeless and skid row bums tax breaks instead so they hire people then.

    October 06, 2011
    1. gbakere

      Now there’s a rational question…ummm…let’s see…ok, I give up…why?

      October 06, 2011
  7. anukulardecider

    Yes, excellent thread! I would think that both “right” and “left” would be able to agree that we need money out of politics. Surely!

    Very fair, reasonable, and rational.

    October 06, 2011
    1. rhrebel

      anuk, very reasonable assumtion however, the conservatives can’t quiet seem to get pass their hatred for our Black, Democratic President Obama to see that they are being led down the proverable path to distruction . You have some like VietVetTx that are so set in their mind that it is next to impossible for this man to do anything right and their great leaders to do anything wrong that there is just no talking to him.

      I don’t think anyone here is saying that the Democrats are 100% squeaky clean but we are saying that they are on the people’s side while the Republicans are squarley on the big money contributor’s side 100%. The Republicans want so badly to get rid of any program that’s sole purpose to to help anyone, i.e., SS, Medicare, Medicade, Veterans Benefits, cutting education to the point we don’t have enough teachers in the class rooms, cutting funding for the police and firemen, you get the drift.

      Wake up Republicans. It is not only the liberals that are against you but a majority of your own base are against what you are doing.

      October 07, 2011
      1. anukulardecider

        What I don’t get is the poor Republican’s that need SS and Medicare, who will still vote Republican. Take Fartbreath, for example, he’s living off the Government, yet bitches about entitlement programs for others…….for some reason, he calls his disability “retirement” even though it is not earned money. He even called his disability SS an investment. I suppose he thinks he’s the only person entitled to entitlements. I wonder if he gets SS for being insane???

        October 07, 2011
  8. Pauligan

    Liberal and conservative are merely terms in Washington. They exist only in rhetoric and the passions of the constituents. If you watch the representatives’ actions they are nearly identical. They both represent the money of their career backers. Look at Obama’s actions. Did he seem liberal to anyone besides the Limbaugh army of pundit zombies? Was Bush a conservative? Obama’s actions made me feel like Bush never left office and he didn’t start speaking like the campaign Obama until it was time to campaign again. A vote for any of these people in either party is a vote for non-representation.

    October 07, 2011
    1. anukulardecider

      I feel your pain (lol) and am disappointed myself, but try to imagine what it would be like today, If McSame and ding-bat had won the election.

      October 07, 2011
      1. anukulardecider

        Oh, no! Because Michele Bachmann would do away with unemployment by getting rid of min. wage, which would drive down the rest of the wages, and we’d all be working for $2 an hour. LOL!!!

        October 07, 2011
    2. gbakere

      That’s a great observation Paul. My jaw ‘bout dropped to the floor when I heard Obama’s 2012 campaign would cost around $1 billion. Who will he be beholding to? The manner in which our political campaigns are financed would be laughable if it were’nt so sadly true. We must all fight to change this.

      October 07, 2011
  9. rhrebel

    Ole fingers working up again—- should be “run and hide” not run and hise!

    October 07, 2011
  10. rhrebel

    Oh, gbakere, he’ll be back, just watch for his essay answer spouting the same ole one liners. It would be one thing if like you said he debated on the post in a reasonable fashion but he doesn’t. He comes in, makes his little one liner stance about how 40% of the people pay no taxes and the poor corporations having to employee people that are too lazy to work, all they want is that paycheck. And 70% of jobs are created by small business and any legislation that prevents them from thriving is bad for this country.

    Oh and don’t forget, everyone should be an entropenure and make all the money he has made and the reason they are poor is because they are lazy, unwilling to work, uneducated, having no drive to do better, had poor raising, etc., etc., etc.. He has been making those same comments since the first day he appeared, then he insults anyone that does not agree with his little rant, calling them
    “emotional”, “unpatriotic” idiots.

    October 07, 2011
    1. gbakere

      As I said, he is all about himself and he is a coward.

      October 07, 2011
  11. 29A

    ’I believe corporations should have all the same rights as individuals ’

    Did you hear Gohmert’s 2011 jobs proposal? Reduce corporate taxes to 0? -, yes, that’s a zero.

    Perhaps individuals need the same rights as corporations instead?

    October 07, 2011
  12. rhrebel

    Yep, Saturday is the big nite. And he will be back if for nothing else to tell us how emotional we are being!!

    October 07, 2011
  13. rhrebel

    Yes tammy, that just goes to show you that what the conservatives are screaming about the liberals only trying to take over the world. What they don’t get is that it’s everyone, not just liberals but conservatives, independents, everyone that is fed up with our government being bought. And since it is more on the Republican side than it is on the Democratic side the Republican politicans better wake up because now it is their own base group that is saying ENOUGH!! We are not going to put up with bug money buying our politicans any more.

    Get the greed and corruption out of our banks, out of Wall Street, reverse the upreme Court ruling that lets these bug corporations buy their politicans! Get the money out of our politics, period!

    And let me make one thing clear, it was reported that some Democrats will not vote for the jobs bill because it includes tax cuts to big oil and they don’t want to make them mad right here at relection time. If you don’t sign it I will make it my mission to find out who you are and to replace you with a Democrat that is on the side of the people not big oil! That is a promise not a threat!

    October 07, 2011
    1. rhrebel

      Wheather you like it or not the President can only do what Congress allows him to do. He has tried to make good on most of his promises just to be shot down by the “Blue Dog” Democrats that don’t like a black man as president and of course the party of NO Republicans.

      Obama is a good man with good intentions and visions in how he would like to see changes for our country. He does not only look at the “short term fixes” he is also looking for long term fixes. We have got to get into the 21th century, we have got to bring our educatrion up to a level that allows us to compete with the Chinas in this world. We have got to get our transportation system updated and on par with China and Europe. All this takes revenue which means tax cuts which the party of NO says NO WAY! He is trying to get student loans down to where people can afford to go to college, he is trying to get training and education for people on welfare and retraining for some of the unemployed that worked at one job for 25 years and suddenly lost their jobs. He is trying to get our manufacturing started back up again. All the while fighting this battle against a Congress that has one thing and one thing only in mind—-see to it that he is a one term president!

      Right now there is only one Democrat out there that could possibly beat Obama and she is not interested. So let’s give this man a chance. Beleive me, you don’t want to see Romney or Perry in there. If you think we have big money in there now just put one of them in and the big corporations will be running our country not the President of the United States!

      If Obama wins in 2012, which I believe he will, you are going to see a different man come outta the gate! He will no longer have to worry about reelection and could start putting some of these people in their place. And that means members of his own party as well as the Republicans!

      October 07, 2011
  14. rhrebel

    You are definately entitled to your opinion as I am mine.

    But I do not believe that the GOP will allow a black man to run on their ticket for President. I also do not see the conservative branch of people getting behind Cain. So if Perry doesn’t stand a tinker’s chance in hell then that leaves Romney which was their top pick from the get-go. I could see the Republican ticket as Romney/Huntsman. But the conservative base right now is around 60% totally dissatisified with the way Republicans are handling things. So I see Obama in 2012 winning. It may be a close race but he is going to win.

    October 07, 2011
  15. gbakere

    Do you really think that Perry, Romney and Cain are any less snowjobbers than Obama? I don’t trust Obama either because he will have special interest money behind him but percentage wise, Obama will raise much more grass roots money than anyone on the Right. In addition, as far as I’m concerned, he’s a lot closer to my philosophy than anyone could possibly be who is on the Right. I don’t trust any of them but I trust anyone on the Right less than anyone on the Left. Obama at least leans left. None of the other three have a left bone in their body except for Romney and no one knows from day to day what he stands for.

    October 08, 2011
    1. rhrebel

      Amen gbakere!

      October 08, 2011
  16. rhrebel

    The nomination is not until 2012. The growing support for Cain right now are the people dissatisfied with Perry moving over to his side. I do not see the Republican base voting in Cain over Romney at the end. Romney will be their final pick therefore get the nomination from the GOP.

    October 07, 2011
    1. rhrebel

      This just might bring into presepctive how unhappy the Republican voters are with their party right now:
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      USA Today/Gallup Poll. Sept. 15-18, 2011. N=1,004 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 4.

      “Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job?”

      Approve Disapprove Unsure

      % % % 9/15-18/11 26 68 5 7/15-17/11 28 65 7 3/25-27/11 31 63 5 8/27-30/10 32 63 5 5/24-25/10 31 64 5

      USA Today/Gallup Poll. Sept. 15-18, 2011. N=1,004 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 4.

      “Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job?”

      Approve Disapprove Unsure % % % 9/15-18/11 26 68 5 7/15-17/11 28 65 7 3/25-27/11 31 63 5 8/27-30/10 32 63 5 5/24-25/10 31 64 5

      ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Aug. 29-Sept. 1, 2011. N=1,001 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.5.

      “Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are doing their job?”

      Approve Disapprove Unsure % % % 8/29 – 9/1/11 28 68 3 4/14-17/11 34 63 3 9/30 – 10/3/10 30 67 3

      AP-GfK Poll conducted by GfK Roper Public Affairs & Corporate Communications. Aug. 18-22, 2011. N=1,000 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 4.1.

      “Overall, please tell me whether you approve, disapprove, or neither approve nor disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their jobs.” If neither: “If you had to choose, do you lean more toward approving or disapproving of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their jobs?”

      Approve Disapprove Neither Unsure % % % % 8/18-22/11 24 75 - 1 0 6/16-20/11 29 68 2 1 5/5-9/11 32 66 1 1 3/24-28/11 31 66 2 2 1/5-10/11 36 61 1 2 -———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

      Pew Research Center. Aug. 17-21, 2011. N=1,509 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.5. RV = registered voters.

      “Do you approve or disapprove of the job the Republican leaders in Congress are doing?” If “depends”: “Overall, do you approve or disapprove of the job the Republican leaders in Congress are doing?”

      Approve Disapprove Unsure % % % 8/17-21/11 22 69 9 7/20-24/11 25 66 10 3/30 – 4/3/11 30 61 9 2/24-27/11 36 45 19 -————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

      NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff®. July 14-17, 2011. N=1,000 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.1.

      “In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that Republicans in Congress are doing?”

      Approve Disapprove Unsure % % % 7/14-17/11 25 67 8 -————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

      Quinnipiac University Poll. July 5-11, 2011. N=2,311 registered voters nationwide. Margin of error ± 2..

      “Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job?”

      Approve Disapprove Unsure % % % 7/5-11/11 26 65 9 5/31 – 6/6/11 30 61 9 3/22-28/11 34 55 11 2/21-28/11 34 54 1 1/4-11/11 30 57 13

      CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. March 18-20, 2011. N=1,012 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.

      “Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republican leaders in Congress are handling their job?”

      Approve Disapprove Unsure % % % 3/18-20/11 34 64 3 -—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

      And there are many, many more. Go to: http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm

      October 07, 2011
    2. numenian

      TT, when I first arrived here you, as tommy, was the hot, hot, hot subject of blogs. I never knew you but from that. I have not found your new persona anything to get riled up about. Some say your change is a fraud. If so, then you were not really bad to begin with.

      As to your above comments, it is understandable.

      October 07, 2011