Labor Participation

Participation in the workforce is rising as people return to work after years of none.

Unemployment is still falling.

Predicitve analytics said the workforce would gain about 180,000 jobs.

The workforce has increased by 209,000 jobs.

That's outperforming the pundits estimates by 29,000, 16% better than predicted.

 

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Comments (64)

  1. fuall

    Everyone loses sight of how that number (monthly jobs report) is mischaracterized. What those wanting the number to sound more impressive conveniently omit, is that there are 120,000 workers joining the work force every month. So, whatever the number of “jobs created” reported, the number has to be reduced by that 120,000. It’s really only 60,000 jobs created. Better than none to be sure, but hardly overwhelming.

    August 05, 2017
    1. Munkyman

      89,000 & the spread is more impressive this way as that makes the report nearly 50% greater growth than expected.

      August 05, 2017
      1. fuall

        Oh shit! That’s horrible math, huh? I was looking at statistics and transposed the numbers. Nice catch!

        August 05, 2017
      2. Munkyman

        None of us are perfect.

        August 05, 2017
  2. fuall

    I have created an open group blog at http://publicsquare.thoughts.com which all except McCunt are welcome to use. It wasn’t difficult to do and only took about 15-20 minutes. I would actually recommend that everyone write and post in their own blog and those that wish to follow them can. Problem solved. Everyone would have control over their own area and content, and could still follow anyone that hasn’t blocked them. It’s simple to find blogs via the “blog” tab at the top of every page, or by going to a user’s profile page and following it directly. All blogs you are “following,” as well as those by your “friends” appear on your profile page in the third block where it says “Blogs I’m Following.” If you decide to create a blog, be aware that you MUST input all of the information without skipping anything for later. The site is so fucked right now that no changes can be made to the blog via “Blog Settings,” not even allowing an icon upload. The only thing that appeared to work were the theme settings. However, the important bit, the “Remove Member” function of the “Blog Members” area (found immediately below “Blog Settings” button) DOES work.

    August 05, 2017
    1. mrmacq

      someone might get the impression that you dont like them

      August 05, 2017
      1. fuall

        I neither like nor dislike you, I hate your behavior. I’m just tired of reading through post after post of nothing but ‘I know you are but what am I’ kind of childish bullshit that’s 50+ comments deep. Enough is enough, and when those exchanges are brought into focus, there’s one person that’s almost always in the center…you. So, it seems the quickest and easiest way to stop the insanity is to simply leave you here in USAPolitics to rant at/to/with yourself. And as I eluded to in my statement, a good portion of the blame lies with each and every one here. There has always been the ability to create another public blog that has some control, as well as the ability of each user to just create their own and allow people to follow them. There’s a work around for … you… for those that are willing to simply do it. As for me, I don’t ban/block anyone except spammers (by the thousands now) and don’t really give a fat rat’s nasty snatch about you, what you do, who you’re doing it to, or why. But you are starting to interfere with my enjoyment of the site, and that changes my perspective somewhat. I will continue to view/comment in USAPolitics as long as others do as well (to a limit) and created the other blog to demonstrate how easy it is to do. I posted a thought there to start it off and allow others to see it, but if they don’t choose to go there, or somewhere else, then I guess they’re all yours to with as you will. I’ve led them to water…

        August 05, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          enough will be enough when spunky (and neo) finally learn

          August 05, 2017
          1. fuall

            Well, if they see there’s an alternative to putting up with your bullshit and they choose to continue on the same course, I guess that’s on them and we can all watch to see who can “out asshole” the others. (My money’s on you! )

            August 05, 2017
            1. mrmacq

              yup
              i can be such an asshole when standing up for my right to post to usapolitics
              what a cunt i am
              i should just roll over and play dead…like a good little feriner

              August 05, 2017
            2. fuall

              See, that’s kinda’ my point right there. Someone points out that all you do in your posts is be an asshole and you take that to mean ’Don’t post’ instead of the more obvious ’Don’t be an asshole.’

              August 05, 2017
            3. mrmacq

              “‘I know you are but what am I’
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              not sure where youre getting that impression from
              all my posts are repeats of the original posts i posted
              (got them on speed dial)
              other than when spunky accuses moi of something
              then of course i defend myself
              or shouldnt i defend myself?
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              i give in the exact same amount as what i get
              no more, no less
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              your thoughts regards moi, i really couldnt care less about
              thought my little quip there, said as much
              though sarcasm can be hard to distinguish in the written word

              August 05, 2017
            4. mrmacq

              i aint being an asshole dude
              no more or less than anyone else

              August 05, 2017
            5. fuall

              Okay… that’s just nonsensical rambling. No clue what your on about, and don’t really care. Characterize your bearing/demeanor however you want, the general consensus opinion differs from yours, and that’s the one that matters with respect to your standing in the “community.” You are being an asshole more than anyone else, that’s the point. It’s just you that can’t/won’t see it. But, as I have already said, those that have a serious problem with your ‘Aura of Assholiness’ can either suck it up or choose an alternative. I’ve never said that someone, anyone, “can’t post” here. I may have said to ‘fuck off’ or some other such witty gem, but never “can’t.” And I maintain there’s no need for your level of assholiness in any conversation, let alone at the opening. You always seem to think it absolutely necessary to be as big of an asshole as possible right from the very start. Just not necessary.

              August 05, 2017
            6. Munkyman

              He says that yet he goes after people who’ve never said Boo to him. So really what he’s saying is that he thinks he has a right to inflict his misery on anyone who happens to be in public.

              August 05, 2017
            7. fuall

              MM – Even though that’s true, that doesn’t change the facts:

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              1) It is an open blog, whether any of us like it or not, and thus, open to any/all that want to post .

              2) He has zero intention of either ceasing his posts altogether, as you advocate, or just not being an asshole, as most would settle for.

              3) No one has to put up with his bullshit and could easily just go to another blog or post within your own where you maintain control.
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              I can’t help anyone with 1 or 2, and I’ve posted the idea and the instructions for 3 in several posts for other users to either adopt or ignore. The rest is up to the individual. Each of you has to make your own choice as to whether or not posting in this particular blog is worth the hassle. I’ve made my choice. I created another place where I can post (when I feel the desire to do so) without the worry of an asshole being an asshole for no other reason than being an asshole. And I can still follow and comment on every other blog out there. (…until I get blocked!)

              August 05, 2017
            8. Munkyman

              Gotta say it’s getting more attractive.
              I went away before, geargrinder & I set up a forum I think it was called Debating Politics.
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              I don’t like walking away from a fight once it’s offered, but you’re right.
              It’s not as if he’ll ever make good on that offer of giving me a 2″×4″.
              I’m gonna repeat this mantra to myself for a couple days while I think it over. “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” ~ Twain
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              It’s just so much fun to watch him lose it though. It’s like getting baked & teasing a cat with a laser pointer.

              August 05, 2017
            9. Munkyman

              When I 1st blocked Q, he would read my personal blogs “incognito” or logged out then post replies in others unrelated blogs where he could. So the idea that he won’t just revert to doing that whereever he can find me on a person who hasn’t blocked him’s blog, is not gambling odds… more like lottery odds & I have better luck with hoping the voodoo doll I left under the back tire of my truck might work. He’s just a jackass that won’t be happy til I’ve gone from Thoughts so he can pretend he’s won something. He won’t be happy in the foreseeable future.

              August 05, 2017
            10. fuall

              Ooh, laser pointers and cats are fun!
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              There’s no need to abandon USAPolitics completely, just post your own material in your own blog or in one that has control for the removal of those being too big of an asshole. You can still comment and read posts from others, and those of us that are interested in what you post can simply “Follow” your blog and comment there. It’s really not a problem other than in your head, because no one likes to be seen as “giving in” when confronted with a dick. But, look at it this way, you’d block him if you could, so that really says it all, doesn’t it?

              August 05, 2017
            11. Munkyman

              I’d plant a baseball bat tape deep in his ass & walk away with a smile… Of course I’d block him & that really does say it all. I told you I used to stand between potential clinic bombers & young women headed to a doctor back in the early 90’s. I’m sure I did. I really don’t like giving public ground to jackasses. In Seattle in the 90’s they had a public park that was essentially taken over by drug dealers. Then someone got the wise idea to put old military loud speakers (Think MASH) on poles & blast classical music. It didn’t take a month, the park was returned to the people.
              You don’t give up the park just because the fight is ugly.
              That’s where I’m stuck.
              I keep trying to get to,
              You don’t fight for things that aren’t worth it & USAPolitics as a forum certainly isn’t.
              You don’t fight a war where there simply is no win, this is the sole basis for my resistance for any real boots on the ground in Afghanistan. I always thought it should only be bombers, drones & SOCOM/JSOC, search & destroy missions with no intention of holding land. Just kill every roach that crawls up until a grasshopper shows his head.
              Nation building is a no win, killing roaches is a win win.
              That takes us back to not giving up the park & putting on some roach stomping boots.

              August 05, 2017
            12. fuall

              Sure dude, I get it. But here’s what you’re forgetting. It’s not your park any more than his. He has just as much “right” to be there as you and I do. That he uses that freedom to be an asshole is clearly beyond the ability of either of us to control, and probably beyond his control as well. What you can do, is choose a better park. One closer to home, that your friends can still visit, but is beyond the ‘Aura of Assholiness.’ Some fights aren’t worth the effort when there’s nothing to be gained. A Pyrrhic victory isn’t a victory worth having, you gain nothing.

              August 05, 2017
            13. fuall

              And let me ask you this…Can you really see yourself doing this day in and day out for…who knows? Really? You might as well “shit or get off the pot” as it were. Either bite the bullet and work out a new system of posting and commenting now, while it’s completely your option and choice, or keep putting up with eating every shit sandwich he serves. I don’t see another option outside of just quitting Thoughts or starting over with another profile. (Not really very realistic, I know, but they’re still “options.”)

              August 05, 2017
            14. Munkyman

              & that’s just it I go back & forth between anything to be won isn’t worth it
              & the fact that you don’t give into assholes because it does nothing, but encourage people to be assholes.

              August 05, 2017
            15. Munkyman

              I don’t eat them, I delete them because that pisses him off more than his posting them pisses me off & it’s just good house keeping to take out the trash.
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              Every time I get to the waste of my valuable time argument, it vaporizes itself… I’m already wasting time just being here most of the time.

              August 05, 2017
            16. fuall

              Occam’s razor; you’re overlooking the obvious. He’s an asshole either way! If you believe he’ll suddenly not be an asshole to everyone else if you’re not there, then you are wildly mistaken. Walking away won’t encourage inherent behavior.

              August 05, 2017
            17. fuall

              “Every time I get to the waste of my valuable time argument, it vaporizes itself… I’m already wasting time just being here most of the time.” And now you’re making my argument for me.

              August 05, 2017
            18. Munkyman

              Really can’t argue that logic, FU.

              August 05, 2017
            19. fuall

              I know. It’s what I do! LOL!

              August 05, 2017
            20. fuall

              Besides, you know it’s not permanent, right? If you start posting on your own blog or the other public blogs like the one I just made and no one sees or follows your trials and tribulations you can simply go back to posting in USAPolitics again. Or post in both.

              August 05, 2017
            21. fuall

              If you’re looking to piss him off, then start posting in your blog, and then comment in USAPolitics as much as you want while he can’t do anything short of creating new profiles to get to comment on yours. And you can still block any “new” assholes. I’m sure he won’t be able to hide his identity, and probably wouldn’t even try.

              August 05, 2017
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            32. fuall

              Occam’s razor states the most likely explanation is usually correct. In this case the most likely explanation is that you’re an asshole, always have been an asshole, and always will be an asshole.

              August 05, 2017
            33. mrmacq

              my bullshit…thats funny
              .
              what the fuck dude
              i`m the one trying to get others to adhere to the rules
              …my bullshit
              plain to see where your sails are set
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              PS
              im not the fucker deleting
              you just might want to consider that niggling fact in your future considerations
              OR
              continue to be a mindless mutton

              August 05, 2017
            34. fuall

              So you don’t even see that he has just as much “right” to delete as you have to show up and be an asshole? That pretty much covers why I’m not at all concerned with how you’re treated here. And rules? What rules? You’ve gone waaaaaay out of your way to flaunt the lack of any kind of rules. And who agreed to any rules in this blog? I sure as shit didn’t, and never will. If the site has any rules I couldn’t tell anyone what they are because there’s nowhere in the site that is accessible that says anything about rules. And if there were, surely being an asshole that follows people from post to post with no other aim than to be an asshole would surely be on that list, wheras deleting asshole comments will likely not be on that list.

              August 05, 2017
            35. fuall

              So glad I stayed around for something as witty and clever as “fuck you.” Well done! Good job! Atta’ boy, sport!

              August 05, 2017
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            40. Munkyman

              There we go, he’s playing cop… enforcing the rules he wants to pretend exist.
              I think we’ve made a major breakthrough here, I don’t think he meant to say that.

              August 06, 2017
            41. fuall

              Oh, darn! I missed it. You must have already deleted (flushed) whatever nugget of wisdom he dropped. Oh well. I guess I’ll manage to struggle through…somehow. lol!

              August 06, 2017
            42. Munkyman

              “i`m the one trying to get others to adhere to the rules”
              I did not delete it. Almost, but that line jumped out at me before I got to the enter key.

              August 06, 2017
            43. fuall

              Oh, that pile. Yeah, I was confused a bit by that one. What rules were those again? Oh, that’s right… none. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen any rules for this blog, and although it’s safe to assume this site has some sort of policy, I haven’t seen anything like an admin, mod, or any other type of representative. So… if no one is watching, or gives a shit, are there any rules? I would argue that the only rules that apply are the ones most agree to as part of operating in a civilized culture, but all bets are off when people get online and don’t have to be held accountable for their commentary.

              August 06, 2017
            44. Munkyman

              There’s the general rules of debate, he ignores those & they are not part of this forum anyway & they never have been. That’s how I eventually got to just deleting Q. The moderator in a debate has the right to silence personal attacks & to eject an unruly debater. My blog & no one acting as a moderator on the forum the job of moderator falls to me as the owner of the blog. It was explained early in this whole thing that all he had to do was clean it up & stop being abusive. Say what he had to say respectfully, angry if he wants just no verbal assaults. It was in fact the exact same offer made to Wireless & I’ve used the exact same practices in the same succession; the difference between the two was unexpected. I am shocked that WG is that more adaptable & reasonable, it was not the hypothesis I began with.

              August 06, 2017
            45. wirelessguru1

              Well, now you know that there is a MAJOR difference between a God and a demon, LOL!!!

              August 06, 2017
  3. Gulfman

    I see no mention of this on CNN MSNBC Or Huffington Post.Are you sure this is right?

    August 05, 2017
    1. wirelessguru1

      Goofball, what about on ABC, CBS, WaPo or the NYT?

      August 05, 2017
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      2. Munkyman

        I heard it on NPR so… who knows.

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  13. fuall

    “I am shocked that WG is that more adaptable & reasonable, it was not the hypothesis I began with.” Ha-ha-ha! I know exactly what you mean. The very first post I had on this site was just one long shitfest of stupidity by the pair and I never thought either would learn anything. Apparently I was only half right. (Unintended “Gold Star” for Neo!)

    August 06, 2017
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    2. mrmacq

      If you’re looking to piss him off, then start posting in your blog, and then comment in USAPolitics as much as you want
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      now theres some mature thinking

      August 06, 2017
      1. fuall

        “now theres some mature thinking”

        It was painfully obvious that someone had to.

        August 06, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          when you planning on starting

          August 06, 2017
          1. fuall

            That doesn’t even make any sense. First you say it is… next you say when is it starting… Is that really the best you can do? Seriously? That kind of lazy thinking isn’t worth the typing effort. Come back later after you’ve put on your ‘big girl’ panties, and try again.

            August 06, 2017
            1. mrmacq

              youre not to good at discerning sarcasm it appears

              August 06, 2017
            2. fuall

              Sounds about right. Be sure to be as vague as possible in your commentary, be sure never to include any capitalization or punctuation, and then blame the reader for your complete incompetence. Maybe if you wanted anyone to understand what your saying you could, I don’t know, I’m just spit-balling ideas here, maybe not be illiterate, and learn how to write? They’ll cover a lot of this in the 2nd grade if you can just hang in there for another year or two.
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              Although I’m a big fan of both sarcasm and hyperbole when used correctly, whatever you’re doing is just random word strings without punctuation to make the meaning clear to the reader. You just assume that the rest of us are as seriously fucked up as you are and can just naturally decipher “batshit.” Sorry, I don’t speak (or read) “batshit.”

              August 06, 2017
            3. mrmacq

              what the fuck dude
              be sure never to include any capitalization or punctuation,``
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              and just where were capitals or punctuation required in my one line
              but hey i get it
              ya just need to dump

              August 07, 2017
            4. fuall

              See, you’re either too obtuse or simply too fucking ignorant to even get what I’m talking about. You write in what can barely even be loosely described as sentences, omitting all punctuation and anything denoting any emphasis and then claim the reader is the one unable to get your meaning. You’re a pathetic retard with no redeeming quality other than the fact that you will one day eventually die.

              August 07, 2017
            5. fuall

              …do us all a favor and make it sooner rather than later.

              August 07, 2017
            6. Munkyman

              Amen.

              August 07, 2017
            7. fuall

              I tell you MM, I don’t know how you do it. I don’t think I can keep engaging with someone so utterly ignorant and useless. This dumb fucker isn’t even clever enough or smart enough to be entertaining. I just don’t see what you get out of this. Are you trying to educate it in the hopes of some larger karmic payout somewhere down the line? ‘Cause I sure as shit don’t see any use in attempting communication at any level with something so woefully ill-equipped to function on it’s own, let alone try to reason with it.

              August 07, 2017
            8. Munkyman

              In most of the kitchens I worked in I was the training chef, I got the dumbasses as they came through the door & had to learn deep abiding patience. I like pretty women, sadly they tend to take a lot of patience & I cannot say I’ve kept my cool as I could see reservations at a friend’s place being given away because I’m the asshole… thanks to her, but I learned to. Mostly I ignore him, he’s like that autistic kid who keeps asking the same question over & over. He can’t help it… if he could he obviously would. So if I like USAPolitics, I get to deal with him in the ways I’m left to use. I tried actual engagement for well over a year. Posting links & excerpts. Thinking about the things he had to say… because he’s not stupid. He uses pretty good arguments until you look at the facts & use your reason. He’s dangerous, he’s the sort of troll that has a mission & that mission is to influence domestic politics in a foreign nations. There’s the problem. I have no issue discussing international politics with people from all over, not Q of course, but domestic politics is for US to discuss, foreign interest is welcome as long as it’s constructive & not just “Fuck Yanks! Arrogant Bastards!” That’s why Steve is interesting, he’s intelligent enough to be direct without being vulgar to challenge without being abusive.

              August 07, 2017
            9. Munkyman

              He’s also secure enough to say his peace & let the OP have the rebuttal as is the reasonable practice. I like Steve.

              August 07, 2017
            10. wirelessguru1

              Steve is a fool but at least he has a very strong backbone.

              August 07, 2017
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    3. wirelessguru1

      Well fuall, I AM still blocking you since I consider you mostly irrelevant.

      August 07, 2017
      1. fuall

        I’d expect nothing less from a spineless pussy.
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        …and in case I haven’t sent one in a while…

        August 07, 2017
        1. wirelessguru1

          YES, it is a good thing that you don’t expect much from yourself… LOL!!!

          August 07, 2017
          1. fuall

            Oh no!! The b-b-burn! Ha-ha-ha! What a fucking dumbass! You spend a lot of time on that one? ‘I know you are, but what am I?’ Ha-ha-ha, fucking priceless! You and McCunt must be sharing those same three brain cells that allow you two to come up with such clever retorts. Oh, whatever shall I do!? Ha-ha-ha!

            August 07, 2017
            1. wirelessguru1

              Not really. They come to Me in microseconds…

              August 07, 2017
      2. fuall

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