'Ten Years' to Save the Earth

Ten Years to Save the Earth?

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That's what Climate Gura Al Gore said about 11 years. 

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That's what Ted Danza said about 20 years ago.

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They keep doing the same thing over and over thinking they will get different results.

 

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  1. Brn2bfree


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    I like the way these ‘flat earthers’ of today have made the polar bear their mascot for ‘Man made global warming’.
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    April 16, 2017
  2. Brn2bfree

    April 16, 2017
  3. Munkyman

    Every once in awhile they slip & tell us what it’s really about, it’s about the world getting smaller & the have nots scaring the hell out of the left. Most people live in places that will be under water in 50-100 years maybe 200 or 1000… the point is they WILL be under water regardless & they have been before. It is a certainty that most of the nation of Great Britain will be under water, London will only survive with canals & that IS to be expected regardless, I use Great Britain to give a degree of separation, it will be NYC, Norfolk, Boston, Savannah & Miami. Now with that in mind & the devious nature of the media, that can be translated into cash going somewhere, Gore becoming a billionaire off his carbon credit scam. A scam he was just smart enough to buy into & then squeeze dominance.
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    The geological record tells us this will all happen & it will all happen in about that span whether humanity ever existed at all or we double our use of petro-fuels in the next decade.

    April 16, 2017
    1. mrmacq

      right spunky
      cause all the worlds climate scientists are being paid by gore
      or if not gore
      the rest of those dastardly dems
      .
      when the fuck are you tits ever going to get off this myopic provincial out look?
      theres a big world out there spunky
      and believe it or not
      a lot of that world knows a fuck of a lot more than you silly tits
      HELL
      even i know more
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      oh wait
      how the fuck can you consider yourselves “great and glorious” if you actually admit such?
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      my bad, spunky
      continue with your ego stroking
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      i believe the mantra goes something like
      “we’re number one”
      “we’re number one”
      “we’re number one”
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      there ya go
      thats all you need to know

      April 16, 2017
      1. Munkyman

        If humanity never even existed, the seas would still rise, it’s in the geological record, our activity may accelerate it, it certainly must by all the laws of physics. It still doesn’t change the fact that we’re on a very regular 100,000 year cycle & about 90% of the way to the peak temperature in that cycle. That cycle tells us that the cycle gets cooler each time too, that steady cooling is the Earth dying & moving a tiny step closer to not being able to support life. Will it die before the Sun gobbles it or a really big asteroid smashes it is anyone’s guess. The only thing to do about global warming is buy land at a higher elevation & build dykes/canals in the coastal cities we want to save. We have absolutely no bearing on IF this will happen & our impact on how quickly is sincerely debatable. Many scientists are not into the “consensus.” Any real scientist doesn’t accept consensus theory as justifiable, empirical proof is science not opinions based on questionable secret algorithms.

        April 16, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          yammer yammer yammer
          heres a number spunky
          450
          and no not the temp that your easy bake oven gets up to
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          try to clue in would you?
          the internets your friend

          April 16, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 17, 2017
        2. mrmacq

          “Many scientists are not into the “consensus.”
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          youre right spunky
          all 1 percent of them that are being paid off by big oil

          April 16, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 17, 2017
        3. mrmacq

          " secret algorithms"???
          what the fuck?
          just cause math aint your strong suit
          dont make the “algorithms” secret
          an algorithm is an algorithm
          no secrecy involved
          otherwise it woundnt be a mathematical algorithm
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          science dont work that way spunky
          nothing secret about science
          nothing secret about math
          (unlike your secret easy bake oven recipes)

          April 16, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 17, 2017
        4. mrmacq

          why do you keep on saying stoopid shit spunky?
          i’ve already told you
          stop saying stoopid shit and i wont have a reason to correct you
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          was that not plain enough?

          April 16, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 17, 2017
        5. mrmacq

          oh wait…
          its that great and glorious that keeps getting in the way
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          you need to work on that, spunky

          April 16, 2017
          1. Munkyman

            April 17, 2017
            1. mrmacq

              spunky still doesnt understand whats being discussed here

              most likely due to his constant need to be right

              April 17, 2017
            2. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 17, 2017
            3. Munkyman

              CO2 is plant food, more plants equals more oxygen saturation. 75% of the plants that make our oxygen are in the oceans. When the conversation is about heavy metal run off & ground level particulates in urban areas, I’ll be ready to talk about something humans have certainly caused & may be able to fix, given the will. However that means bringing production back to the West from Asia where the worst pollution is actually occurring.

              April 17, 2017
            4. wirelessguru1

              Why are you still trying to have a reasonable and logical discussion with a delusional demon!?
              ARE YOU THAT BORED!!!???

              April 17, 2017
            5. Munkyman

              It’s not about him, this critical information is pushed aside by far too many, the fact is the oceans will rise & they would no matter if we were ever here.
              There is a real & human problem here, that will only be solved when the iPhone isn’t made in Asia.

              April 17, 2017
            6. wirelessguru1

              Earth and climate changes will continue to take place regardless of and despite the pesky humans and demons…

              April 17, 2017
            7. mrmacq

              “CO2 is plant food”
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              you are a nutbar spunky
              no one is arguing that co2 aint a plant food
              same as H2O is also a plant food
              HOWEVER
              if ya feed the plants too much water…as in flood them out
              …they tend not to do so well
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              what the fuck is wrong with you tits?
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              fire in the hearth is great for warming during the winter
              too much fire in the hearth tends to burn the fucking building down

              April 18, 2017
            8. mrmacq

              “There is a real & human problem here, that will only be solved when the iPhone isn’t made in Asia.”
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              what da fuck?
              slipped a cog did ya?

              April 18, 2017
            9. mrmacq

              spunky still doesnt understand whats being discussed here
              and he will never admit it
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              hint spunky
              EXCESSIVE CO2 amounts
              thats the fucking issue
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              no ones arguing the cyclic temps for hundreds of thousands of years
              its a fact
              same as its a fact that man has been tapping all those stored up carbon stores and burning them
              billions of years of stored up carbon
              that the earths ecosystem stored in the ground
              Fuck earths ecosystem, says spunky
              “I” know better

              we have since plowed up and fucking burnt in a few short hundred years
              those billions of years worth the earth managed in her own way
              pushing the norm 280 parts per million to close to 450 parts per million
              and being CO2 is a greenhouse gas…traps the fucking heat in
              WORSE
              when the temp rises it then melts the permafrost releasing more greenhouse gasses (methane) trapped there
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              i gave you the fucking hint spunky
              450
              i suggested the internet is your friend
              but you simply babbled on
              saying stoopid shit yet again
              and so here i am, yet again, calling you on it
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              go ahead spunky, go to your usual
              pretend im harassing you
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              you have turned out to be one of the stupidest people ive ever chatted with
              odd
              since you proclaim others have found you …what was it you claimed?
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              i can drag it out, or you can be honest

              April 18, 2017
            10. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
          2. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 17, 2017
      2. wirelessguru1

        This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

        April 17, 2017
    2. mrmacq

      “off his carbon credit scam”
      you have no fucking idea how it even works
      but there you are poo pooing shit you refuse to understand

      April 16, 2017
      1. wirelessguru1

        This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

        April 17, 2017
    3. mrmacq

      from the internet spunky
      that tool you refuse to employ
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      The carbon market is a concept based on “polluter pays” and cap and trade principle. The objective is to reduce gas emissions through the use of market law. It assembles voluntary organizations that exchange the rights to issue carbon dioxide.

      When the companies are listed, the administration decides on the total amount of gas emissions they can emit as a group. (Normally the total amount is lower than the one emitted the previous year.) The main idea here is to reduce this level every year.

      After the central administration decides on the total amount, a specific amount of gas emissions is distributed to each company. During the year, if a company manages to emit less than the allowable amount, it can sell the remainder to another company. This transaction doesn’t change the total emissions of the group. Therefore, one company must emit a lower-than-allowable amount in order for another company to emit more.
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      so tell us spunky, dear spunky
      just how the fuck did gore get rich?
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      let us recall spunky’s words
      “Gore becoming a billionaire off his carbon credit scam. A scam he was just smart enough to buy into & then squeeze dominance.”
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      tell you what spunky
      since you wont have an answer for that
      lets get into your national enquirer bullshit

      April 16, 2017
      1. Brn2bfree

        Are you taking short cold showers to save the planet?

        April 17, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          thats hilarious, herr brn
          say something else just as silly to prove how little you know about the subject would you?
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          An efficient, low cost electricity system for B.C. More than 90% of BC Hydro’s generation is produced by hydroelectric generation, which is generally the most cost-effective, clean and reliable option. We also continue to investigate alternative sources of energy, such as wind and wave power.
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          the issue here herr brn is rising co2 levels
          why do you guys always skip over that?
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          Once a hydroelectric complex is constructed, the project produces no direct waste, and has a considerably lower output level of greenhouse gases than fossil fuel powered energy plants
          hydroelectricity produces the least amount of greenhouse gases of any energy source

          April 17, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 17, 2017
          2. Brn2bfree

            What are you doing to save the planet comrade? Have you been doing your share?
            People have been doing things to save the planet for the last 30 years. Has that done anything? Made a change in the direction? Did Obama lower the sea levels? How do you measure that? Wouldn’t you think flat earthers like you would compile studies regarding the progress you progressives are making.. eh #UGULIBLEPHUCK?

            April 18, 2017
            1. mrmacq

              fuck
              but youre broken
              just have to say the stupidest shit imaginable
              instead of using noggin

              April 18, 2017
            2. mrmacq

              “it hurts brain to think”

              April 18, 2017
            3. mrmacq

              cant possibly get an intelligent convo out of you fucks

              April 18, 2017
            4. Brn2bfree

              April 18, 2017
      2. wirelessguru1

        This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

        April 17, 2017
      3. Munkyman

        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/energy-environment/03gore.html
        https://www.occupycorporatism.com/gore-demands-cooperation-of-global-carbon-taxing-to-boost-his-own-profits/
        https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/11/the-planet-saving-capitalism-subverting-surprisingly-lucrative-investment-secrets-of-al-gore/407857/
        Variously praising & questioning him becoming a billionaire off carbon credit trading, one of them even points out that the money isn’t going towards anything to actually reduce carbon emissions.
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        That’s all the time I have for you this week, rant on & have fun.

        April 17, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          you truly are fucked dude
          theres something wrong with your brain
          in order to transfer carbon credits
          your company needs to be below the norm in carbon emissions
          if gores companies are below then he deserves all the kudos given
          wait
          just how many companies does gore own that produce greenhouse gasses?
          and they are all carbon emissions lean?
          then what the fuck is your bitch?
          how the fuck could the dude get rich off this “so called” ponsie scam?
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          you fucking understand nothing
          and youre quite quick to tell us so
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          read the fucking thing again spunky
          and this time really try to understand it
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          stop being thoughts most robust idiot
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          “The carbon market is a concept based on “polluter pays” and cap and trade principle. The objective is to reduce gas emissions through the use of market law. It assembles voluntary organizations that exchange the rights to issue carbon dioxide.
          When the companies are listed, the administration decides on the total amount of gas emissions they can emit as a group. (Normally the total amount is lower than the one emitted the previous year.) The main idea here is to reduce this level every year.
          After the central administration decides on the total amount, a specific amount of gas emissions is distributed to each company. During the year, if a company manages to emit less than the allowable amount, it can sell the remainder to another company. This transaction doesn’t change the total emissions of the group. Therefore, one company must emit a lower-than-allowable amount in order for another company to emit more.”

          April 18, 2017
          1. Brn2bfree

            Comrade, If you send me $100, I’ll name a star after you.
            If you’re that gullible to believe that man can change the climate on a large scale, then maybe I can name a star after you.

            April 18, 2017
            1. mrmacq

              you say such stoopid shit
              worse
              you actually believe what you say
              we have changed the climate herr brn
              at pre industrial it was at 280 parts per million
              we are headed towards 450
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              thats fucking change, herr brn
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              i understand, that you dont understand
              and that you dont want to
              after all those sciency things are liberal witchcraft

              April 18, 2017
            2. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
            3. Brn2bfree

              There’s no way to measure global warming. The planet is always changing.

              April 18, 2017
            4. mrmacq

              theres no way to measure the average speed of a vehicle, says herr brn
              if velocity is constantly changing

              April 18, 2017
            5. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
    4. Brn2bfree

      April 18, 2017
      1. mrmacq

        thats an old one

        April 18, 2017
        1. wirelessguru1

          This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

          April 18, 2017
        2. Brn2bfree

          …. Old one? Yes, it’s been over six years and the sharks are still circling thinking they can still swim there and eat him.

          April 19, 2017
  4. wirelessguru1

    Global warming is a huge HOAX!

    April 16, 2017
  5. Gulfman

    I believe in global warming in July and August but not January and February

    April 16, 2017
  6. deaconjim

    Looks like we better make some changes.

    April 17, 2017
    1. Brn2bfree

      Are you taking short cold showers to save the planet?

      April 17, 2017
      1. mrmacq

        is that going to be your silly joke for the week?

        April 17, 2017
        1. wirelessguru1

          This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

          April 17, 2017
        2. Brn2bfree

          It’s a question that puts you gullible phucks on the spot. You guys don’t practice what you preach. If these people who think we’ve only got 10 years… what are they doing.?
          You guys are claiming man is changing the climate without proof.

          April 18, 2017
          1. mrmacq

            thats right herr brn
            all those scientists…they got no proof
            you repulsives on the other hand
            have all your baseless accusations

            April 18, 2017
            1. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
        3. Brn2bfree

          Comrade, are you moving to higher ground if the climate is warming the icecaps. ??

          April 18, 2017
          1. mrmacq

            and yet again
            a stupid assed comment
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            can always expect the same from you, herr brn
            zero in thought

            April 18, 2017
            1. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
          2. mrmacq

            are you fuckers all grade three level?

            April 18, 2017
            1. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
          3. Brn2bfree

            You can NEVER answer my questions. That tells me a lot…

            April 18, 2017
            1. mrmacq

              your questions are stupid herr brn
              that tells the rest of us a lot

              April 18, 2017
            2. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
            3. Brn2bfree

              Rest of us? You disagree with everyone. Maybe that Fake deacon is on your side.

              April 19, 2017
      2. deaconjim

        No, Brenda, I take hot showers. I get power from wind and solar.

        April 19, 2017
        1. Brn2bfree

          Speaking of hot air. Good morning Mr. FakeDeacon…. I noticed that you haven’t changed your sexist ways. You know I’m a man and you keep calling me a woman. You think that it’s going to hurt me…. degrade me? Don’t worry about that because I smile when I see you do that. I see you slapping yourself in the face. Shooting yourself on the foot. Btw, I’m a lesbian in a man’s body.

          April 20, 2017
  7. willsblog

    It’s funny, the Liberals all claim that bad things are going to happen SOON yet these same Liberals all claim that it is Conservatives that are spreading panic. So I’m trying to understand the Liberal’s message. We shouldn’t panic at their message? We should panic at their message? Who’s speaking a message of panic?

    April 17, 2017
    1. mrmacq

      right dildo
      in your world its always you vs liberals
      because the rest of the world is but an extension of american politics
      i’m surprised
      you gave up such a great chance to bash obama
      he does after all employ the entiertry of the rest of the world

      April 17, 2017
      1. wirelessguru1

        This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

        April 17, 2017
    2. Brn2bfree

      Liberals are always speaking a message of panic. However, they don’t practice what they preach. Appears that liberals are extremely gullible and stupidstitous

      April 17, 2017
      1. willsblog

        Apparently so. I believe gullibility is a requirement when registering as a Democrat.

        April 17, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          says the dude who was gullible enough to believe the turnip when he claimed he was going to drain the swamp

          April 17, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 17, 2017
          2. Brn2bfree

            He did comrade….. just getting the Obama snail slime out of the swamp is a great start. The ugly toad Hillary would have stunk up the swamp. Reversing Obama’s executive orders and putting his own people are draining the swamp. Getting a new AG is cleaning the swamp. Now to shed more light on the swamp to burn away more Democrat rot gut shit.

            April 18, 2017
            1. mrmacq

              the obama snail slime as you call it
              left due to term limits
              fuck all to do with the turnip
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              how stoopid are you fucks anyways?

              April 18, 2017
            2. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
            3. Brn2bfree

              Yeah comrade MacDoodle, Obama did two terms and he and the liberals say that America is a racist country.

              April 18, 2017
            4. mrmacq

              no herr brn
              just some of you

              April 18, 2017
            5. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
          3. deaconjim

            Gullible enough to believe Trump is a Christian.

            April 19, 2017
            1. wirelessguru1

              Freak, Obama was clearly a Muslim…

              April 20, 2017
  8. fuall

    Fuck the polar bear! (and your little penguin too!) Ha-ha-ha! But seriously, why is the polar bear, or any other creature different than the rest of the 99.999% of species that have ever existed and are now extinct? There’s creatures going extinct every day. Granted they’re going at a rate estimated to be 1,000 times to 10,000 times higher than the so-called “background” rate, but those are wildly wide numbers which call to question how they even got them in the first place. And no matter what that answer is, it’s just a guess since no one knows what’s really out there and what’s really not. And remember, everything goes extinct..or at least has so far. We’re the first creatures we know of in the history of this planet to have a realistic shot at getting off of this rock and becoming a multi-planetary species, which is pretty much the surest way to guarantee the survival of our species since it insulates the population from any extinction level events, as well as ensures diversity and adaptability continue in our evolutionary process going forward.
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    Besides, by the time this place is fucked I’ll already be long dead and won’t give any more of a shit than I do right now.

    April 17, 2017
    1. Munkyman

      & you hit the 2nd big shiny nail on the head, IF we don’t get off this rock it’s all futile anyway, we will cease to exist eventually.

      April 18, 2017
  9. magnocrat

    Its not a question of saving the earth but saving civilisation as we know it. In 1859 the Carrington event closed down the primative telegraph system such an event today would close the grid and fragment civilisation.
    The earth will keep turning , the rat will have a field day and we will survive in dark age pockets. Modern civilisation is extremely sensitive and severe weather would quickly wreck it. Its not the only worry ; antibiotic resistance is beginning to show its ugly head.
    Fleming warned us after he discovered penicillin it could happen but we sailed gaily on. Yes we are smart but far from indispensable.

    April 17, 2017
    1. Brn2bfree

      Its not a question of saving the earth but saving civilisation as we know it.
      Modern civilisation is extremely sensitive and severe weather would quickly wreck it
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Climate change is destroying civilization?
      It looks like you’re looking for something to be scared about. If you want something to be scared about. Imagine if these volcanoes in Iceland or anywhere around the world erupting for months and months and months and years… Then we can see climate change.

      April 17, 2017
      1. mrmacq

        volcanoes have been erupting since the very beginning herr brn
        and they will continue on erupting
        that, is part of earths ecosystem
        its when man comes along and unearths all the stored up carbon in this dirtball and proceeds to burn it, adding millions/billions of years worth of co2 to the ecosystem
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        it is no longer a balanced ecosystem
        suitable for life as we know it
        why do you refuse to see, that if you add to the equation, crap is going to happen

        April 17, 2017
        1. wirelessguru1

          This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

          April 17, 2017
        2. Brn2bfree

          I’m talking about major volcano eruptions numbnuts.
          Also, mother nature is leaking tons of oil from the bottom of the oceans but she has an eco system that cleans it up. Micro organism that eat and absorb… cleaning always destroying and cleaning. Yes, mother nature is doing more damage to herself than man can ever do. She ends up changing over and over and does it in cycles.

          April 18, 2017
          1. mrmacq

            now tell us the story ’bout cinderella

            April 18, 2017
            1. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
          2. mrmacq

            they truly make them fucking stoopid down stateside

            April 18, 2017
            1. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
            2. Brn2bfree

              If you don’t understand mother nature that …like a woman is very unpredictable, then you are the stoopid phuck up in Northern Mexico.

              April 18, 2017
            3. mrmacq

              and you actually get laid with an attitude like that?

              April 18, 2017
            4. wirelessguru1

              This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

              April 18, 2017
      2. magnocrat

        If you lived in the Solomon Islands you may change your mind as the sea slowly but surely encroaches on your house.

        April 18, 2017
        1. wirelessguru1

          So crazy old dude, you live in the Solomon Islands now!?

          April 18, 2017
          1. magnocrat

            No but we all need to sometimes wear another persons shoes. Try it yourself sometime broaden your outlook.

            April 19, 2017
            1. Brn2bfree

              If you’re going to wear other peoples shoes, make sure they fit. Otherwise you may fall on your face or get athletes foot.

              April 19, 2017
            2. wirelessguru1

              Crazy old dude, I AM very happy with My own shoes, so get lost!!!

              April 19, 2017
        2. Brn2bfree

          You don’t understand the planets evolution. The planet is always changing. Continents divide, separate, collapse, volcanoes creates more mass. Erosion happens ever so slowly. Typhoons roar, worlds collide but I remain undisturbed because I know it’s beyond our control. Species come and go, everything that is given life has an expiration date.

          April 19, 2017
          1. magnocrat

            I have been lost at times but its done me a power of good just as taking the blinkers off a horse lets it see all around.
            My understanding is very limited so I listen to those who do know the subject , endeavouring to learn as best as I can.
            While it is true we cannot control nature we can avoid upsetting her as much as possible and we can rescue those unfortunate enough to be seriously affected.

            April 20, 2017
            1. Brn2bfree

              Helping others gives us fulfillment in life. Talk to them about keeping our environment clean but don’t scare people because of your superstitions. You should gather all the information and come out with your conclusion not some pinhead who thinks he’s a scientist.
              .
              Upsetting her? Don’t mess with mother nature. You are part of mother nature and there’s nothing you or anything else can do to upset her. You’re like the rest of the animals and birds. In that there’s nothing they can do. We’re all at the will of mother nature. Life will go on with or without you. If we do anything to upset her, she has a way of destroying/cleaning and balancing the ecosystem.

              April 20, 2017
            2. magnocrat

              They are not my superstitions but a general scientific consensus. On most subjects we are not experts so we have to decide what we are going to accept or reject.
              To suggest we cannot upset nature shows a lack of understanding. We have been manipulating nature since we first cleared forests to sow crops. Now we spray crops with tons of insecticides and we feed farm animals with tons of antibiotics. We extract millions of gallons of oil from the ground and pollute the air with millions of internal combustion engines. Its so bad in some cities that masks have to be worn to protect our lungs.
              Nature will put things right but we may not like her solution , it would be well to pacify her because she has no respect for any man or beast.

              April 20, 2017
            3. wirelessguru1

              Crazy old dude, what does “general scientific consensus” mean anyway!?
              Science is NOT a democracy! WAKE UP!!!
              You are not an expert on anything. You are just a crazy old dude that posts here…
              ..and NO, Nature does not get “upset”, whatever than means!?

              April 20, 2017
            4. magnocrat

              Science is a democracy among experts in their field but you already know that. I don’t have to be an expert that’s why I don’t repair my car or my computer or many other modern appliances. If I had a degree in biology would it make me an engineer?
              You know exactly what I mean but upsetting the balance of nature we do it every time we weed the garden.

              April 21, 2017
            5. wirelessguru1

              NO! Science is NOT a democracy on any field!

              April 23, 2017
  10. stevehayes13

    All Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” predictions were supposed to come true in less than a decade and not one of them did. The world has been full of doomsayers for as long as were have existed. And they have all been wrong.

    April 17, 2017
    1. Brn2bfree

      Does that mean you don’t believe in man made global warming?

      April 17, 2017
      1. stevehayes13

        It is not a matter of belief. it is a matter of science.

        April 18, 2017
        1. Brn2bfree

          Let me put it another way. You believe the so called scientists who say that man is warming the climate. Who say that cow flatulent and hair spray is putting a hole in the sky… Lol.
          To you, I guess you would call me a climate change denier.
          .
          What’s crazy about that statement is that I don’t deny that climate changes… it changes all the time and it comes to us in cycles as well.

          April 18, 2017
          1. stevehayes13

            I have no idea why you think I would call you a climate change denier.

            April 18, 2017
    2. willsblog

      “No man knows the day nor the hour”…

      April 17, 2017
      1. mrmacq

        Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
        .
        Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
        .
        But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
        .
        have you any idea what a generation is, dildo?
        here
        let me help you out
        A generation is “all of the people born and living at about the same time, regarded collectively.” It can also be described as, “the average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children are born and grow up, become adults, and begin to have children of their own.”

        April 17, 2017
        1. wirelessguru1

          This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

          April 17, 2017
  11. fuall

    Predictions are only as reliable as the data, AND rely on nothing else changing. Suppose there’s a poisoned dish at a buffet. If I walk over and tell you you’re about to die of poison that would surely kill you if ingested, and then you DON’T ingest it and die, does that somehow mean there really was no poison simply because you didn’t die? Once you change the behavior in any significant way, the predictions are no longer valid, as they were predicated on certain circumstances. Greenhouse gas emissions curbed under the Kyoto Protocol have been implemented since 1997 and since 1994 under the UNFCCC agreement. They have reduced the amount released into the atmosphere and slowed the pace (slightly) of the warming trend expected from what was originally estimated. It hasn’t "fixed: anything, but it has extended the timeframe a small amount.
    .

    April 17, 2017
  12. wirelessguru1

    Does anybody here actually reads the BS that this mrmacq demon child predator posts here!?

    April 18, 2017
  13. wirelessguru1

    “When a religeous person says the world is coming to an end, he’s called a nut.
    When a leftist says the world is coming to an end, he’s called an environmentalist”

    April 25, 2017
  14. Brn2bfree

    In the 70’s it was about global freezing. The planet hasn’t warmed in 15 years.
    We’re doing a great job sustaining stupidity in this country.

    April 17, 2017
    1. mrmacq

      only cause you keep on refusing to use noggin, thereby sustaining stupidity
      .
      In the 70’s (actually 80s) it was about a depleted ozone level
      .
      try to get your story straight herr brn

      April 17, 2017
      1. wirelessguru1

        This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

        April 17, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          you are such a fucking child neo

          April 17, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 17, 2017
      2. Brn2bfree

        It was about global freezing. Mr. MacLeftNut
        The Ozone has been shrinking recently.

        April 18, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          proof positive that herr brns a nutcase
          “The Ozone has been shrinking recently”
          .
          obviously i now ask herr brn
          “whats an ozone?”

          April 18, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 18, 2017
          2. Brn2bfree

            Remember the Ozone Hole? Now There’s Proof It’s Healing.
            .
            Scientists find evidence that the hole is finally shrinking, thanks to the phasing out of harmful chemicals 30 years ago.
            .

            After three decades of observation, scientists have finally found the first fingerprints of healing in the notorious Southern Hemisphere ozone hole.
            .

            In 1974, Mario Molina and Sherwood Rowland, two chemists at the University of California, Irvine, published an article in Nature detailing the threats to the ozone layer from chlorofluorocarbon (CFC) gases. At the time, CFCs were commonly used in spray bottles and as coolants in many refrigerators, and they were rapidly accumulating in the atmosphere.

            .
            The groundbreaking research—for which they were awarded the 1995 Nobel Prize in chemistry—concluded that the atmosphere only had a “finite capacity for absorbing chlorine” atoms in the stratosphere.
            .

            After being widely attacked by the chemical industry, Molina and Rowland’s work was vindicated 11 years later, in 1985, when a team of English scientists realized the dire implications of their findings: the CFCs in the atmosphere had created a hole in the ozone layer. The loss of the protective ozone can lead to increased rates of skin cancer in humans and animals.

            .
            http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/06/antarctic-ozone-hole-healing-fingerprints/

            April 18, 2017
          3. mrmacq

            oh, you meant the ozone HOLE has been shrinking
            NOT the ozone itself
            .
            wait
            just up there with steve you were saying the opposite
            “Who say that cow flatulent and hair spray is putting a hole in the sky… Lol. "

            April 18, 2017
          4. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 18, 2017
        2. mrmacq

          you understand fuck all, herr brn
          yet you still prattle on
          is it any wonder why thinking folk figure you a moron?

          April 18, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 18, 2017
          2. Brn2bfree

            Comrade,
            How much ‘carbon tax’ do you Canucks pay? You guys are heavy in to that man is destroying the planet.

            April 18, 2017
          3. mrmacq

            do you not read herr brn?
            “The carbon market is a concept based on “polluter pays” and cap and trade principle. The objective is to reduce gas emissions through the use of market law. It assembles voluntary organizations that exchange the rights to issue carbon dioxide.
            When the companies are listed, the administration decides on the total amount of gas emissions they can emit as a group. (Normally the total amount is lower than the one emitted the previous year.) The main idea here is to reduce this level every year.
            After the central administration decides on the total amount, a specific amount of gas emissions is distributed to each company. During the year, if a company manages to emit less than the allowable amount, it can sell the remainder to another company. This transaction doesn’t change the total emissions of the group. Therefore, one company must emit a lower-than-allowable amount in order for another company to emit more.”

            April 18, 2017
          4. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 18, 2017
          5. Brn2bfree

            You don’t get it comrade… You are a ‘polluter’. Man, cows are all polluters.

            April 20, 2017
          6. mrmacq

            herr brn
            your question was “How much ‘carbon tax’ do you Canucks pay?”
            i clarified for you who it is exactly who pays
            those companies releasing too much co2
            now youre bouncing left and right
            .
            try to stick to the convo…K?

            April 23, 2017
          7. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 23, 2017
        3. mrmacq

          wait…
          those thinking folk?
          thats who you call liberals
          …just clarifying

          April 18, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 18, 2017
        4. mrmacq

          Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) and other halogenated ozone depleting substances (ODS) are mainly responsible for man-made chemical ozone depletion. The total amount of effective halogens (chlorine and bromine) in the stratosphere can be calculated and are known as the equivalent effective stratospheric chlorine (EESC).
          .
          why i’m even trying to converse with these rejects of humanity is a bit of a wonder even to moi
          perhaps, i just think that even the cromagnon is worth saving
          .
          something has to nudge some light of understanding into that brainium
          .
          i just know i’m wasting my time but what da fuck
          .
          read and try to understand
          .
          “The ozone layer forms a thick layer in stratosphere, encircling the earth, that has large amount of ozone in it. The ozone layer protects life on earth from strong ultraviolet radiation that comes from the sun. Ultraviolet rays are harmful rays that can drive up the risk of deadly disorders like skin cancer, cataracts and damage the immune system. Ultraviolet rays are also capable of destroying single cell organism, terrestrial plant life, and aquatic ecosystems.”
          .
          Why Ozone Layer is Necessary?

          An essential property of ozone molecule is its ability to block solar radiations of wavelengths less than 290 nanometers from reaching Earth’s surface. In this process, it also absorbs ultraviolet radiations that are dangerous for most living beings. UV radiation could injure or kill life on Earth.
          .
          and heres herr brn nattering about “global freezing”
          as thats the narrative he was fed
          .
          no need for thought
          our brain is quite relieved

          April 18, 2017
          1. mrmacq

            the us educational system at its finest

            April 18, 2017
          2. mrmacq

            and they rank where?
            fourteenth out of forty countries
            .
            here are some that rank above you
            South Korea (1.30)
            Japan (1.03)
            Singapore (0.99)
            Hong Kong (0.96)
            Finland (0.92)
            United Kingdom (0.67)
            Canada (0.60)
            Netherlands (0.5
            Ireland (0.51)
            Poland (0.50)
            PS
            youre number is 0.39
            so much for that great and glorious crap eh?

            April 18, 2017
          3. mrmacq

            notice how those fucking chinks are doing?
            not to terribly bad for not white eh?

            April 18, 2017
          4. mrmacq

            wait
            did spunky read this shit?
            well of course he did
            more to needle the ego sensitive prick with

            April 18, 2017
          5. Brn2bfree

            Chinks ? lol

            April 18, 2017
          6. Brn2bfree

            You probably don’t use hair spray eh comrade?

            April 18, 2017
          7. mrmacq

            just calling them what you would call them herr brn
            wouldnt want you confused as to who we were discussing

            April 18, 2017
          8. mrmacq

            “You probably don’t use hair spray "
            .
            ya mean unlike the turnip?

            April 18, 2017
          9. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 18, 2017
          10. mrmacq

            wait
            this just in
            Scientists Debate Amount of Hair Spray Trump Will Need for Outdoor Inauguration Speech
            BY NABOB
            .
            With his inauguration approaching, President-elect Donald Trump has asked a group of scientists to determine how much hair spray he’ll need to keep his famous combover in place during his inauguration speech, which traditionally takes place outdoors. The group has been meeting for almost a week and more meetings are planned between now and inauguration as it tries to nail down the precise amount he’ll need given the unpredictability of the weather in Washington in January.
            .
            “It’s a challenging task,” said Jeffrey Barnes, professor emeritus of chemical engineering at the Stanford School of Engineering in Palo Alto, Calif. “Wind, rain, snow, cold temperatures—there are a lot of unknowns come inauguration day that could play havoc on what is arguably the most famous combover in the world.”
            .
            Gerard Leclair, distinguished chair of chemical sciences at MIT in Boston, said he has been working with a team of graduate students to determine the kind—and amount—of hairspray he will be recommending to the team. “Do you use a gel? Do you use an aerosol-based product? Each brings strength to the equation, but each brings weakness, too.”
            .
            Leclair said his team is leaning toward an aerosol solution, in part because Trump “isn’t concerned about the release of hydrofluorocarbons, which opens up a lot of avenues to us that wouldn’t be there if he were worried about climate change,” he said. “Honestly, we were concerned that if Hillary Clinton won, we would almost certainly be forced to look at just gel-based products to hold her hair in place during the speech. Of course, we could have done it, but it would have been that much harder. Luckily, she doesn’t have a bald spot to cover, as far as we know, but she does have a vexing cowlick that bedevils her daily.”
            .
            Three research teams in all are working on the problem, and the goal is to have a final recommendation no later than two weeks before inauguration. “That way we’ll have time to order what we need, probably on Amazon, although I know Trump is publicly unhappy with Jeff Bezos (Amazon’s founder and CEO), so we might source the product somewhere else,” said Barnes. “Although, if you use Amazon Prime, you know, you get free delivery, and that can be huge. We expect to use a lot of product.”
            .
            Stocks in Aqua Net rose 15 percent at close of trading yesterday.

            April 18, 2017
          11. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 18, 2017
          12. Brn2bfree

            mrmacq

            just calling them what you would call them herr brn
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            Mr. Macgoo…. You know what I would call them. ???
            …you think man can change the climate…. you think you know what I would say…
            Hmmmm. You’re some kinda nut.

            April 20, 2017
          13. mrmacq

            man HAS changed the climate, herr brn
            pre industrial era the co2 levels were at the 250 range
            now we are topping out at over 400 edging to 450
            450 is a bad number
            .
            Earth Will Cross the Climate Danger Threshold by 2036
            The rate of global temperature rise mayhave hit a plateau, but a climate crisis still looms in the near future
            .

            .
            The rate at which the earth’s temperature has been rising eased slightly in the past decade, but temperature is still increasing; calling the slowdown a “pause” is false.
            New calculations by the author indicate that if the world continues to burn fossil fuels at the current rate, global warming will rise to two degrees Celsius by 2036, crossing a threshold that will harm human civilization.
            To avoid the threshold, nations will have to keep carbon dioxide levels below 405 parts per million.
            “Temperatures have been flat for 15 years—nobody can properly explain it,” the Wall Street Journal says. “Global warming ‘pause’ may last for 20 more years, and Arctic sea ice has already started to recover,” the Daily Mail says. Such reassuring claims about climate abound in the popular media, but they are misleading at best. Global warming continues unabated, and it remains an urgent problem.
            The misunderstanding stems from data showing that during the past decade there was a slowing in the rate at which the earth’s average surface temperature had been increasing. The event is commonly referred to as “the pause,” but that is a misnomer: temperatures still rose, just not as fast as during the prior decade. The important question is, What does the short-term slowdown portend for how the world may warm in the future?
            The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is charged with answering such questions. In response to the data, the IPCC in its September 2013 report lowered one aspect of its prediction for future warming. Its forecasts, released every five to seven years, drive climate policy worldwide, so even the small change raised debate over how fast the planet is warming and how much time we have to stop it. The IPCC has not yet weighed in on the impacts of the warming or how to mitigate it, which it will do in reports that were due this March and April. Yet I have done some calculations that I think can answer those questions now: If the world keeps burning fossil fuels at the current rate, it will cross a threshold into environmental ruin by 2036. The “faux pause” could buy the planet a few extra years beyond that date to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and avoid the crossover—but only a few.
            A Sensitive Debate
            The dramatic nature of global warming captured world attention in 2001, when the IPCC published a graph that my co-authors and I devised, which became known as the “hockey stick.” The shaft of the stick, horizontal and sloping gently downward from left to right, indicated only modest changes in Northern Hemisphere temperature for almost 1,000 years—as far back as our data went. The upturned blade of the stick, at the right, indicated an abrupt and unprecedented rise since the mid-1800s. The graph became a lightning rod in the climate change debate, and I, as a result, reluctantly became a public figure. In its September 2013 report, the IPCC extended the stick back in time, concluding that the recent warming was likely unprecedented for at least 1,400 years.
            Although the earth has experienced exceptional warming over the past century, to estimate how much more will occur we need to know how temperature will respond to the ongoing human-caused rise in atmospheric greenhouse gases, primarily carbon dioxide. Scientists call this responsiveness “equilibrium climate sensitivity” (ECS). ECS is a common measure of the heating effect of greenhouse gases. It represents the warming at the earth’s surface that is expected after the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere doubles and the climate subsequently stabilizes (reaches equilibrium).
            The preindustrial level of CO2 was about 280 parts per million (ppm), so double is roughly 560 ppm. Scientists expect this doubling to occur later this century if nations continue to burn fossil fuels as they do now—the “business as usual” scenario—instead of curtailing fossil-fuel use. The more sensitive the atmosphere is to a rise in CO2, the higher the ECS, and the faster the temperature will rise. ECS is shorthand for the amount of warming expected, given a particular fossil-fuel emissions scenario.
            It is difficult to determine an exact value of ECS because warming is affected by feedback mechanisms, including clouds, ice and other factors. Different modeling groups come to different conclusions on what the precise effects of these feedbacks may be. Clouds could be the most significant. They can have both a cooling effect, by blocking out incoming sunlight, and a warming effect, by absorbing some of the heat energy that the earth sends out toward space. Which of these effects dominates depends on the type, distribution and altitude of the clouds—difficult for climate models to predict. Other feedback factors relate to how much water vapor there will be in a warmer atmosphere and how fast sea ice and continental ice sheets will melt.
            Because the nature of these feedback factors is uncertain, the IPCC provides a range for ECS, rather than a single number. In the September report—the IPCC’s fifth major assessment—the panel settled on a range of 1.5 to 4.5 degrees Celsius (roughly three to eight degrees Fahrenheit). The IPCC had lowered the bottom end of the range, down from the two degrees C it had set in its Fourth Assessment Report, issued in 2007. The IPCC based the lowered bound on one narrow line of evidence: the slowing of surface warming during the past decade—yes, the faux pause.
            Many climate scientists—myself included—think that a single decade is too brief to accurately measure global warming and that the IPCC was unduly influenced by this one, short-term number. Furthermore, other explanations for the speed bump do not contradict the preponderance of evidence that suggests that temperatures will continue to rise. For example, the accumulated effect of volcanic eruptions during the past decade, including the Icelandic volcano with the impossible name, Eyjafjallajökull, may have had a greater cooling effect on the earth’s surface than has been accounted for in most climate model simulations. There was also a slight but measurable decrease in the sun’s output that was not taken into account in the IPCC’s simulations.
            Natural variability in the amount of heat the oceans absorb may have played a role. In the latter half of the decade, La Niña conditions persisted in the eastern and central tropical Pacific, keeping global surface temperatures about 0.1 degree C colder than average—a small effect compared with long-term global warming but a substantial one over a decade. Finally, one recent study suggests that incomplete sampling of Arctic temperatures led to underestimation of how much the globe actually warmed.
            None of these plausible explanations would imply that climate is less sensitive to greenhouse gases. Other measurements also do not support the IPCC’s revised lower bound of 1.5 degrees C. When all the forms of evidence are combined, they point to a most likely value for ECS that is close to three degrees C. And as it turns out, the climate models the IPCC actually used in its Fifth Assessment Report imply an even higher value of 3.2 degrees C. The IPCC’s lower bound for ECS, in other words, probably does not have much significance for future world climate—and neither does the faux pause.
            For argument’s sake, however, let us take the pause at face value. What would it mean if the actual ECS were half a degree lower than previously thought? Would it change the risks presented by business-as-usual fossil-fuel burning? How quickly would the earth cross the critical threshold?
            .
            read more here
            https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-will-cross-the-climate-danger-threshold-by-2036/

            April 23, 2017
          14. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 23, 2017
          15. Brn2bfree

            This is all ‘horseshit’ comrade. Man is not warming the planet. Someday, flat earthers like you will find out like they did then that the earth was not flat… like most thought. Same today maybe people like you will find out that Man is not God or mother nature. There are so many idiots like you who believe that hoax like then who believed the earth was flat.

            April 24, 2017
          16. Brn2bfree

            .
            Earth Will Cross the Climate Danger Threshold by 2036
            ~~~
            Did you get that off Al Gores predictions? Did you push the clock back again?

            April 24, 2017
          17. mrmacq

            what the fuck is wrong with you herr brn
            simply have to beak, cause youre so good at beaking
            i left you a link
            and you proceeded to say something stoopid

            April 24, 2017
          18. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 24, 2017
      3. Brn2bfree

        You help feed the stupidity in this country Mr. Mac Global Nutcase

        April 19, 2017
        1. mrmacq

          its you deniers that are feeding the stupidity, herr brn
          you
          are the flat earthers

          April 23, 2017
          1. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 23, 2017
          2. Brn2bfree

            I don’t deny that the planet is warming. It does every year around July.

            April 24, 2017
          3. mrmacq

            and again
            you say something stoopid

            April 24, 2017
          4. wirelessguru1

            This mrmacq demon is a child predator.

            April 24, 2017